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Elon Musk criticized MS NOW contributor Paola Ramos after she went viral last week for a clip in which she repeatedly denied there are any genetic differences between groups of different ancestry.
Ramos shared a clip on her Instagram from an interview she did with pronatalist activists. The pronatalist movement believes modern civilization is undergoing a destructive decline in the birthrate, which must be undone by encouraging people to have more children. In her Instagram caption, Ramos warned, “A movement that encourages people to have more babies is once again gaining momentum in the far right. Remember, Trump said he wants to be the ‘president of fertility.’”
Ramos, the daughter of Telemundo journalist and prominent Trump critic Jorge Ramos, spoke with neuroscientist Malcolm Collins and his wife Simone Collins. The couple wrote “The Pragmatist’s Guide” series and are advocates of maintaining healthy cultures and birthrates to uphold civilization.
In the interview clip, which went viral, Ramos challenged Malcolm, saying, “Malcolm, you’ve said things like, ‘Black women are biologically different than White women.’”
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“They, yes, they have different fertility windows. They have a higher rate of fertility complications,” he began.
“But there’s no scientific evidence to prove that a Black woman and a White woman are genetically different, right? This is like …,” Ramos said.
“What are you talking about!?” the neuroscientist shouted. “Like, literally, there are genes that code for their skin color.”
“This is like, government data. This isn’t me. This is the National Institute of Health. This is the American Medical Association. There is no scientific evidence to prove that,” Ramos claimed.
Malcolm rejected this claim.
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“What you’re stating is just factually incorrect,” Malcolm said. “Humans are genetically diverse. It’s not a bad thing that humans are genetically diverse.”
“I’m not saying it’s a bad or a good thing. I’m saying there is no scientific evidence,” Ramos said.
“There is scientific evidence. There is overwhelming scientific evidence,” Malcolm said. “This is like saying the sky is not blue. Like, it is genes that code their skin color, right? Those genes are obviously different in them than they are in us. How is that not science? That’s just, like, a basic fact. The genes that code their skin color, their level of melanin production, are different from my genes.”
“And that’s precisely why I was asking this question,” Ramos answered. “Because I think for some people that do believe, like you, that people are genetically different, that has historically been used to promote racial hierarchies, right? And that’s why I’m asking you.”
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Musk, another advocate of pronatalism who has warned low birthrates are “one of the biggest risks to civilization,” responded to the clip of Ramos with a laughing emoji. Others on social media compared her interview to something the “Borat” satirical troll personality would do, while others were baffled she chose to share the clip in the first place.
Ramos didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
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